I played Citizen Sleeper 2: Starward Vector and talked to its creator about quests that ‘don’t give you the dragon money’, Mass Effect 2 as an ‘anti-reference’, and making RPGs that aren’t based on D&D

“I want people to say ‘I’ve finished Baldur’s Gate 3’, and for other people to say ‘go play Citizen Sleeper 2.'”

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